Boycott Absolut Vodka
Posted by The Red Pill on April 2, 2008
(H/T: Gateway Pundit)
When you buy Absolut Vodka, you help pay for propaganda like this.
Boycott Absolut Vodka!
UPDATE: Michelle Malkin has more.
UPDATE 2: You can voice your displeasure directly to Absolut on their message board.
UPDATE 3: I think I prefer this one. (H/T: Michelle Malkin)
UPDATE 4: Welcome Digger’s Realm readers, and thanks to Digger for the link.
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patricksperry said
Did a trackback. This is guerrilla marketing for sure. Makes ya wonder though. Just how straight can a vodka besoted fool shoot anyways?
The Red Pill said
Thanks.
A comment on the blog this was found summed it up well…
“Come take it.”
The sad thing is—they’re working on it.
D.A. King said
Hey, barkeep, vodka/tonic please, anything BUT Absolute!
absolut lover said
everyone is missing it here- open your closed, little minds a bit…do you really get what “the absoult world” campaign is all about??? this is being presented from a mexican’s perspective, what THEIR absolut world would look like.
oh, well – leave it to american’s to get worked up…but atleast you’re talking about it – GREAT CAMPAIGN!
cheers! as i lift my glass of absolut, the best in the world.
The Red Pill said
“…this is being presented from a mexican’s perspective, what THEIR absolut world would look like.”
That’s why it’s written in Spanish, right?
Oh wait….
absolut lover said
o.k. THE RED PILL…Again, open your closed, little minds –
Languages of Mexico
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Spanish is the predominant language of Mexico and de facto official language.
I guess men should be outraged by the ad running in America – that which depicts a pregnant man – sounds like an absolut world to me
absolut lover said
oh yeah,
again, cheers! as i lift my glass of absolut, the best in the world.
The Red Pill said
Maybe you should lay off the sauce for the rest of the day, because you aren’t making much sense anymore.
“THE RED PILL…Again, open your closed, little minds”
For starters, I only have 1 mind. Perhaps all that vodka has split yours.
“That’s why it’s written in Spanish, right?”
“Spanish is the predominant language of Mexico and de facto official language.”
Thank you for making my point. Spanish is the language of Mexico. So if an ad is supposedly being presented to Mexicans from a Mexican standpoint, why is the message of the ad written in English?
“I guess men should be outraged by the ad running in America – that which depicts a pregnant man”
Despite the fact that many are disturbed by the ad you are referring to, this really isn’t a fair connection. Women are not launching campaigns to force men into pregnancy. However, there are major campaigns in America and Mexico that are calling for the very thing the Aztlan ad is depicting.
absolut lover said
i rest my case, without opening your mind, u will never get this. absolut pushes the envelope once again, causing people to step out of their comfort zone. THIS AD WAS NOT INTENDED FOR AN AMERICAN TARGET MARKET HERE FOLKS< they are speaking from the perspective of the TARGET MARKET…
so sad that u can’t get it – it is such a superior campaign – go with it people!!!
The target market for the American ad is women, those who are well educated and can afford a high end product, ones that would get a kick out of seeing a few preggers men carry the weight.
sorry u just don’t get it – but again, we’re talking about it – amazing marketing going on!!
America and their borders, their wars, their causes – loosen up people, loosen up
absolut lover said
btw, have you REALLY looked at the AD???
The Red Pill said
Evidently, the only way I can “get” what you are saying is to consume large quantities of vodka.
“THIS AD WAS NOT INTENDED FOR AN AMERICAN TARGET MARKET HERE FOLKS< they are speaking from the perspective of the TARGET MARKET”
THEN WHY ISN’T THE AD WRITTEN IN THE LANGUAGE OF ITS TARGET MARKET?
Have you really looked at the ad? Or do you not know the difference between English and Spanish?
The Red Pill said
For your claim to hold as much water as you obviously can hold of vodka, the ad would need to say this:
En un mundo Absolut
Nice try, though.
absolut lover said
the reference to the campaign is in ENGLISH my friend, the controversial part of the ad, should be the fact that THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA and other geographic notations are in SPANISH!!!
The map people, THE MAP, the part of the ad that would be considered an ABSOLUT WORLD by those in Mexico is presented in Spanish – Estado Unidos De America.
I wonder why, on a page that encourages open dialogue that you getting so offensive in your remarks. I am not under the influence of anything other than an openminded point of view, you should try it. I now realize by previous postings that the American border and immigration is a “touchy” subject with you. Therefore, it is reasonable that this topic would provoke such emotion.
I think the purpose of the ad is to get Mexicans to share in the delight of a wonderful product – not to deminish the size/power of America. However, American’s have a hard time stepping outside of issues they find threatening or over ones head. This ad falls into the “over ones head” category – however, it would be demoralizing to admit that about ones self so it is seen as a threat.
best of luck to you.
The Red Pill said
Why am I being offensive?
“open your closed, little minds a bit”
“THE RED PILL…Again, open your closed, little minds”
You get what you give around here. My mind may be closed, but it is not little.
Now if you would like to continue the conversation without insulting me, I will return the favor.
The Red Pill said
Now yes, I realize that part of the ad is in Spanish. It is the very fine print that nobody ever looks at, and the very faded print on the map.
However, the entire point of the ad is written in English. If the ad is supposed to target Mexicans in Mexico, why is the slogan not in a language they can understand? Heck, there are millions of Hispanics in America that can’t understand English. What makes Absolut think that story would be different in Mexico?
absolut lover said
I and many others think it to be a wonderful campaign – we are not restricted by a thought process based on power, greed, fear – but creativity, pushing the envelope. Wouldn’t you admitt that the geographic depiction would be an “absolut world” to some living in Mexico??? If so, you can for an instance realize what great marketing is about.
absolut prevails in this area once again – amazing,eh?
you admit to being closed minded, w/ any affliction that is the first step in recovery – the realization that you have a problem
LOL!! and i will give it to you, your mind seems to be of pretty good size as you are able to articulate your feelings very well 
however, I am still convinced that you are missing the bigger picture here, like most Americans have and will continue to do.
i still like the ad, i get it, it makes me chuckle. and btw, i am a proud american – who is a citizen of the world, not limited by borders, or idealogies that fog intelligent thinking.
i am sure that your “boycott” will have very litte effect on absolut’s success – they’ll replace your sales w/ that of a mexican that can get a good ad campaign.
again, best wishes to you as this is my last post.
Diggers Realm said
Absolut Vodka Sells Out US To Reconquista Mexico For A Buck
Absolut Vodka is the latest company to sell out the United States and pander to the reconquistas who are fighting for Aztlan (the retaking of the Southwest of the United States). This latest attack on the sovereignty of the…
Will Entrekin said
Shit, I prefer Cuervo anyway.
Salud.
Matt Thomas said
I’m sure the people at Absolut thank you for displaying their advertising for free on your blog!
boycott_absolut said
My open letter to Pernod Ricard, owners of Absolut…
Perhaps you wanted a controversy to mark your purchase of Absolut.
Well, congratulations, you now have irrevocably angered every Californian I know and most Americans as well.
Your vulgar, hurtful ad showing that in ‘your world’ Mexico will conquer the western USA feeds a dangerous seccesionist movement among the millions of illegal Mexican aliens who have entered the USA and who are eager to claim our land for Mexico. It could well lead to violence in the streets, the deaths of children, and potentially a civil war. If you think this is an exaggeration then you do not understand the real situation on the streets.
If you do not know about the effects of certain messeges upon susceptible masses on the streets then you should not be so reckless. If you are aware of what you have done then you are simply evil.
Pehaps I can show you what you have done: Imagine a major US-based firm launching an ad campaign aimed at muslims in France and North Africa using a picture of the Notre Dame Catherdral after it was converted into a mosque with the caption “Francostan, its yours for the taking”. Do you think the real French citizens may find that offensive? Do you think sales of that US product may fall in France after such a hateful and incindiary ad?
About 45% of Absolut sales (on unit basis) are in the USA. As word of your divisive and ll-conceived ad spreads you can expect official boycotts and significant reductions in sales. I for one will never buy Absolut again. Last year I bought three bottles.
Furthermore, I will also boycott all products from Pernod Ricard, V&S, Fortune Brands, and Future Brands. I will encourage your US distributors to shun your business and let them know that everything they sell will be boycotted as long as they carry Absolut. To the extent I can (by personal contact and through web outlets) I will urge all others to join in the boycott. Tonight the blogs are abuzz and the anger is already at a boiling point – that is how I was first alerted to your diabolic blunder.
Your plan may be to purposely lose sales in the US in order to gain sales in Mexico. Time will tell how that works for you. I suspect any gains in Mexico will not offset the losses from your largest single market, the USA. I know for a fact I have much more discretionary income than most Mexicans and I can assure Mr. Patrick Ricard that he will never again get any of it.
Perhaps if you pull all these disgusting and dangerous ads immediately and issue a formal apology I may eventually reconsider, but much damage has already been done.
Buck Frain said
For someone who claims to have a tertiary education you seem awfully proud of your ignorance. I don’t know whether you’ve intentionally misunderstood the ad to make a racist point or whether you’re just a bit simple. For a student of history you seem to be specialising in History As Written In The USA. Your blog is pretty xenophobic, perhaps you should change its name to “The Red Neck”.
piimakoer said
I think the reason the most important part of the ad is in English is so that the word “Absolut” would figure in the middle of the picture and draw attention to it. If the phrase would be in Spanish and, as the Red Pill said, would be “En un mundo Absolut” the word being advertised would be on the side and would not immediately receive the amount of attention it is expected to.
I could be wrong, but it just popped into my mind.
Daryl said
Of course, you do realize that the western portion of the US used to be part of Mexico. Cracking open a history book might enlighten you a bit.
Queen Supreme said
Wow…you guys are really closed minded about this add, and really quick to jump to the conclusion that it’s an anti-american ad. Honestly, the first thing I thought of when I saw the ad was Spring Break. In an ‘Absolut World’ Mexico would be bigger and extend up into the US so more people could party. That’s what I thought of.
But I really do think the ad is supposed to simply be humorous, and yes, I do think it’s supposed to be an Mexican Ad campain. If you look in the bottom left hand coner of the the, it’s got words in Spanish. It’s OBVIOUSLY a Mexican ad. So stop being ignorant and realize not everyone outside the US thinks the US is great. So an add like this is funny to them. No harm, no foul.
Queen Supreme said
And also, I’d just like to add that I think your ‘better’ version of the ad is far more offensive.
Mojo Rising said
I think we can compromise here. Tell you what, you can have San Francisco, LA, Berkeley, Portland, and Seattle. We’ll repay the favor by continuing to import your poor people. We take on your liabilities, you take on ours- sounds fair to me.
Mojo Rising said
Wait, we’ll keep Portland because its pretty and we like to fish.
The Red Pill said
That just goes to show that what is offensive is relative to who is viewing it. I am offended by an ad that gives the state I live in to Mexico.
Daryl, the key portion in your statement is “used to.” Maybe you should crack open a History book to see how it turned out. Even an Atlas would do.
It seems there are a lot of folks that don’t understand what the big deal is.
We call it “Hispandering.” Of course, we don’t believe that Absolut really wants the fantasy of Aztlan to become a reality. What we do believe is that Absolut is willing to offend many Americans in order to sell their product to Mexicans. That is a trade-off they have chosen to make. Now they can accept the repercussions of that decision.
humanitarian2112 said
EDIT: Moved to correct article.
they have the non apology up on the absolut blog.
We Americans are just not astute enough to understand the intent of advertising. You see, they wouldn’t ever think of running an ad like this in the U.S.
http://absolut.com/iaaw/blog/in-an-absolut-world-according-to-mexico#comment
A.M.R. said
Here is a list of the companies that market thru the Mexican Ad Agency TERAN\TBWA (e-mail bolsadetrabajo@terantbwa.com.mx ) That is the source of the disgusting Ad…
Absolut
Adidas
Apple
AstraZeneca
Fujifilm
Haagen Dazs
Nextell
Nissan
Pedigree
Roche
Twix
Call Contact and ask them why their subsideries do business with an add agency that markets potental Race War…
Historian said
To be honest not too many people pay attention in history class anymore. Absolut Lover is correct, but only partially. This ad plays to the fact that the 1800’s American philosophy of Manifest Destiny was disrespectful and indeed harmful to the other cultures that existed in the regions that were taken over. Mexico looked roughly like it does in the ad prior to American expansion west. Effectively America stole this land through the use of force and this ad points out that many Mexicans are still sore about that.
The Red Pill said
America did not steal anything from Mexico except for maybe our love for tacos.
That land was bought and paid for as part of the Treaty of Guadelupe Hidalgo, which brought an official end to the Mexican-American War.
Mike M. said
From now on whenever I order a vodka tonic and the waitress asks “Absolut”? I’ll just say “Absolut-ely NOT!” (and I haven’t bought a single pair of Levis since 1992 when they stopped supporting the BSA)
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Patrick said
Here is some contact info:
Jeffrey Moran
Director of Public Relations and Events
The Absolut Spirits Company, Inc.
1370 Avenue of the Americas
New York, NY 10019
USA
Phone, direct: +1 212 641 87 20
E-mail: jeffrey.moran@absolut.com
M@ said
“everyone is missing it here- open your closed, little minds a bit…do you really get what “the absoult world” campaign is all about??? this is being presented from a mexican’s perspective, what THEIR absolut world would look like.”
Well, good. From OUR perspective, we will boycott it and let the Mexicans get drunk…. Gotta love the moron “raising” her/his glass in a toast. Dummie.
patricksperry said
Did a little rework of the advertisement Absolut Lover, it can be found over at my friends place => http://texasfred.net/archives/1056#comments
Wonder why Americans are touchy, try looking into La Raza, Atecla, and a few of the other separatist movements.
Buy Polish Rye Vodka if you want the real thing!
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verdad said
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Jeff said
I love Absolut. This ad makes me want to buy even more of it.
Jeff said
I love Absolut.
This ad makes me want to buy even more of it. I love when someone skewers the US!
ScottOnCapeCod said
A motivational Poster In Absolut’s Corp. Office
http://thumbsnap.com/v/rLNLykm3.jpg
Chimbles said
Why people are getting upset over this? Vodka ads are not meant to be taken seriously anyways… or perhaps I should drink Mikes Hard Lemonade and check my garage for a Ferrari, then bedroom for a hottie… and if they are not there, cry and moan about it on the internet. Let’s move on people, there are more important things to waste breath (bandwidth) on.
Nelson Badia said
Lets extend The USA to the tropic of Cancer and send all ths
‘ilegales’ there
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Ron Kelly said
I have always enjoyed Absolut but I will never taste it again. Belvedere is a good alternative.
Chimbles said
Why people are getting upset over this? Vodka ads are not meant to be taken seriously anyways… or perhaps I should drink Mikes Hard Lemonade and check my garage for a Ferrari, then bedroom for a hottie… and if they are not there, cry and moan about it on the internet. Let’s move on people, there are more important things to waste breath (bandwidth) on.
Chris said
What a xenophobic minds we are!!!, Relax and be a little be more opened mind , more intelligent for something nothing relevant against our country!! For Goodsake, don’t lets hate go into your heart; that only causes more war in our planet. Relax and try to create something more constructive and why not HAPPIER! Cityzens of the world as somebody else wrote above.
Chris said
Drink whatever you want , but… be rational,don’t create a HATE that doesn’t exist, only on xenophobic and poor minds can exist.
joeski32 said
Funny how the small shit supposed to condition us into excepting a North American Union seems to be doing the complere oposite! Aye we should boycott Mexico !!!!
BEV said
Don’t just boycott Absolut. The company that owns them, V&S, also sells Penfolds wines and other products. Check out their site.
The disgraceful marketing firm Teran/TBWA also does ads for Adidas, Pedigree DDog Food, Nextel, FujiFilm and others.
Jhonn.P said
Personally I do not think that ad is proposing to invade our territory. Cmom, don’t be so drastic if they already apologyzed and took away all that sensite ad; then feel more tranquil!! Or living in war is acceptable?
TACO MAN said
EVERYONE should send emails to “investor.relations@pernod-ricard.com” and let them know our feelings promoting the Mexican Takeover of the USA. We need fences not ABSOLUT!
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Boycott said
Here is a partial list of products put out by this company.
Vodkas:
Stolichnaya**
Wyborowa
Zubrowka**
Polar Ice*
Lodowa
Huzzar
Altai Gins
Beefeater
Seagram’s Gin
Cork Dry Gin
Scotch:
Ballantine’s
Chivas
Passport
100 Pipers
The Glenlivet
Glendronach
Strathisla
Longmorn
Scapa
Tormore Irish
Jameson
Paddy
Walker Special Old
Wisers
American Bourbon
Wild Turkey
Four Roses
Liqueurs:
Pernod****
Pernod with absinthe extract****
Ouzo Mini***
Kahlúa
Tia Maria
Hiram Walker
Tequilas:
Olmeca
Viuda de Romero Rums
Havana Club
Montilla
Wines:
Almaden
Mumm
Perrier-Jouët
Jacob’s Creek
cv said
email sent to Absolut:
Dear Sirs,
It pains me greatly to have to report that I, for one, will no longer be consuming Ablolut Vodka after seeing this story in the LA Times about your Mexican ad campaign.
Try to imagine a map of Sweden with the border of say GERMANY running half way through it. Get the idea?
I find it impossible to believe that most AMERICANS would not find this ad the most offensive thing imaginable.
We are fighting out own little war here in AMERICA. There are more Illegal Aliens [mostly Mexican], living, working, taxing the system without paying taxes in the area pictured in the ad then there are CITIZENS in the entire hermetically sealed country of Sweden, where I understand Absolut is made.
The beauty of our system in AMERICA is that you have choice. Until yesterday my choice was always Absolut, but now I would find it hard to order it among the myriad of other QUALITY vodkas on the bar.
Sincerely,
cv
American said
THANKS FOR THE LIST BOYCOTT
I WON’T BUY ANY OF THAT SHIT.
FUK YOU ABSOLUT
Jhonn.P said
My choice is Absolut, who give us the oporttunity to see the different points of view from something happened in the middle 1800′.The beauty of our system is freedom and get rid off that an unfriendly feeling worldwide. Yes to peace, No to hatred.
Jim Powell said
I will never buy Absolute again!
American said
Just say no to absolut
mike said
absolut vodka???? absolutly not!!!!
salvador said
How would Mexicans feel if the ad had Cortes with an idea in his head of a new Mexico. A Mexico under Spanish rule again like the old days. And it had Cortes with the idea in his head of Mexicans as slaves like the old days under Spanish rule. Then have the map of Mexico under the heading of New Spain. And have in a perfect world for Spaniards in a heading.
heavysarcasim said
I’ve been in marketing for years.
This was no “history lesson”
This is guerilla marketing…using a brand to unite the disgruntled.
Look where the agency is located. This was intentional.
This is terrorist marketing.
Go after a sore point, rub their faces in it, and blame everyone else for the situation they find themselves in.
There was no humor in this ad…not to any Mexican, because they take this “history” very seriously. Even now they talk of “taking back” what they think is theirs.
Certainly not to Americans, who are collapsing under the weight of taxes to provide services to the illegal population.
This campaign gave Absolut tons of publicity, but lost them more in market share. Sorry, you can give every Mexican a bottle of Absolut every day, and they will still not equal the consumption of American consumers.
It was stupid.
There should have been an apology, but the real feelings of those writing this campaign are too evident.
Absolut Lover has tried very hard to defend the indefensible.
In marketing, there are good ideas, and bad ideas…in an attempt to gain brand loyalty, Absolut may have gained many disgruntled Mexicans, but they have forever lost favor with nearly every American who has seen this ad.
Their new ad should now be a large lemon, with a map of Mexico on it and the words, “En un mundo Absolut”.
Do I blame them for going after specific demographics?
Of course not!
But in a world where it is hard enough to unite people, this ad was targeting Mexican Pride, appealing to the hurt, the anger and the rage.
Just what we need more of, anger and rage.
And there will be plenty of Mexican’s who will be offended by the ad.
They know the history, and it was not a happy one. To force them to remember defeat, and loss is humiliating.
Absolut’s ad agency has used their own prejudices to create an ad that is not just insulting to every Mexican and American, its stupid.
I’d be saying “hasta la vista baby” to their agency post haste.
Nice job Absolut…you must have been drinking when you made the decision to run that ad.
Realist said
Maybe a few folks in Germany and Russia believe in an Absolut Europe that would have Sweden under Nazi rule or perhaps the Communist USSR – and I believe those regimes came later than 1848 Mexico. Nice job Absolut – its vodka for crap sakes. Paint thinner and Lysol have more character than this Nordic swill. As far as basic target marketing – why would Absolut even target a native Mexican audience? Yeah I am sure Paco and Juan are contemplating their next Absolut martini with a twist. Retards.
Leave your politics to your side of the pond.
DIXIE said
Any one who says this is just advertising to a certain vodka market is just out of the loop. Why was the President of Mexico handing out pamphlets telling people how and where to cross the border and what to do once they were here? They want that territory back. That ad was to stir up that market more and perhaps encourage more border crossings. Wake up America! Our country is in trouble as we the people stand by and do nothing.
BUILD THE FENCE NOW!!
ohroonoko said
Absolut is a bottom-shelf vodka anyways. Blecchh!
Gogo said
Well, perhaps Pernod Ricard of France who was considering an acquisition of Absolut may very well be reconsidering this purchase. HEY wait a while you’ll get it for a much better price. LOL
HOMIE said
IF THIS ISN’T A “RACIST” ATTEMPT BY ABSOLUT VODKA, I JUST DON’T KNOW WHAT IS.
I AM CONTACTING EVERYBODY IN MY E-MAIL IN BOX, TO BOYCOTT THIS COMPANIES PRODUCT.
FURTHER MORE, ABSOLUT CAN KISS MY ROSEY RED A*# HOLE!!!
NUFF SAID
PISSED IN IDAHO said
I LIVE IN SOUTHERN IDAHO. WHERE IT IS
WETBACKHEAVEN!!!NO DOUBT THAT THEY WILL BE SOON CONSUMING MASS QUANTIES OF “ABSOLUT” VODKA.
OUR LOCAL POLICE, SHERIFF, DO ALMOST NOTHING TO STOP THE CONSTANT FLOW OF “ILLEGAL” MEXICANS INTO OUR STATE.
AND LET’S NOT FORGET THE MASSIVE AMOUNT OF DRUGS THAT THEY BRING TO OUR STATE.
THIS ONE IS TO OUR “CHUMP IN CHIEF” OF THIS, ONCE GREAT NATION,
BUILD THE FREAKING FENCE, ALONG OUR SOUTHERN BORDER. AND BUILD IT COMPLETELY, NOT JUST A MILE HERE OR THERE. AND USE THE BEST AND CURRENT TECHNOLOGY.
AND LEST WE FORGET, ABOUT OUR 2 IMPRISONED “BORDER AGENTS” COMPEAN AND RAMOS.
IT SEEMS THAT THE MEDIA, HAS CHOSEN NOT TO EVEN MENTION THIS TRAVESTY OF JUSTICE. THEY ARE IN “CONFINMENT” CELLS. NO CONTACT WITH ANYBODY ELSE. JUST THE THREE OF THEM, YOU, ME, AND MYSELF.
AGAIN, MR. BUSH, FREE OUR BORDER AGENTS. THEY DID NOTHING WRONG, AND YOU GAVE AMNESTY TO THE DRUG DEALER, TO TESTIFY AGAINST 2 AMERICAN HEROS!!!
WELL, THAT SHOULD JUST ABOUT DO IT FOR NOW, BUT IT WON’T BE ABSLOUT VODKA. THEY CAN KISS ME WHERE THE SUN DOESN’T SHINE!!!!
EDIT: Thank you for your comments, but I would prefer not to have this type of racial namecalling here.
CoolGayDad said
Just emailed Pernod-Ricard. I’m an American, I’m a Texan, I’m a Houstonian and I’m not a conservative but I’m pissed as hell about his.
Absolut sold some 5 million cases of vodka in the United States last year versus 300,000 in Mexico.
They can move to Mexico for all I care, I will never buy another V&S or Pernod-Ricard product for my home or my business and I will encourage each and everyone I can spread the message to not to purchase their products either.
By the way “Jhonn.P” your English grammar sucks almost as much as your lie implying you live here.
red blooded american said
Umm, does this mean that Absolut will run an ad in Spain depicting their map of the New World that includes Mexico?
And just how long did Mexico possess this part of the United States? about 20 years. and we won it fair and square.
“Give me your tired, etc.” are words on a statue that was a gift from France. They are NOT a part of the US Constitution. We do not owe Mexico a thing.
The repatriation of this part of the US is a real movement in Mexico. Unbelievably so.
Wake up America. We’ve become a joke because we are bought the propaganda that if we are proud of what we are then we are intolerant bigots. It’s not true.
It’s time the middle class in this country started to reclaim what is ours. Or it really will belong to Mexico.
red blooded american said
P.S. Ketel One is a much better vodka.
FIRE Coalition said
The official Boycott has begun. FIRE Coalition, the largest, grass-roots organization fighting illegal immigration has launched http://www.AbsolutlyNot.com as part of the http://www.AmericaFirstBoycott.com project. The boycott represents all of the organizations in the coalition and their outrage at Absolut’s ad campaign. Today, they were featured on Neil Cavuto’s Your World on Fox News Channel (http://www.firecoalition.com/obc/media/FIRE Coalition Cavuto Absolut Interview 04072008 Web.wmv”
mayer said
Wow, for a country that’s supposed to honor free speech, we sure do get offended easily.
I think boycotting Walmart’s plethora of cheap Chinese products should be boycotted instead. Where’s THAT forum?
Jim said
As a marketing professional I’m appalled at the stupidity of this ad. They should fire the ad agency who put this together as well as anyone within the company who approved the ad. Can you imagine the uproar if they published an “In An Absolut World” ad in the Arab world showing a Middle East without Israel? How about an ad in Germany with a map of the Third Reich at its greatest extent?
Absolut has just revealed themselves to be part of the America-hater crowd. I wonder if the Mexicans will buy enough vodka to make up for what they lost in US business. I just flushed the last of my Absolut down the toilet and I won’t be buying it in the future. By the way, Cold River Vodka is a superior product and is made right here in Maine, USA!
Franklin Pearce said
This campaign doesn`t surprise me in the least given where it is coming from. Swedes have been famous for asking, “Adolf may I get you a tonic?” Anyone who was in WWII can tell you Swedes were only too happy to accomodate the Nazis. Should this inflammatory ad surprise us? No. Given Swedens behavior in the war anything is o.k.. Inga you look a bit Aryan, how much for your daughter?
Boston said
I used my bottle of Absolute to make car window washer today, and it will be the last day I ever buy or order absolute. It was the vodka I used to buy, never again.
US Diplomat said
I not only find this add offensive, but dangerous. It inflames anti-American feelings and long standing feelings of victimization on behalf of Mexican citizens. One wonders how it would make Latin Americans feel if the same add showed a European Colonial map of Mexico and South America prior to 1800 or how East Asians would feel about an ad showing European control of much of Asia and the slogan in an “Absolute World.” But the ad was not meant for Latin American of Asian sensibilities it was meant to speak to European Imperialist sensibilities. One has to wonder how a global company could allow such and add, unless of course it speaks to Swedish/Western European sensibilities squarely rooted in anti-American sentiments.
And for the record, my wife and kids are all dual US/Swedish citizens and I will never drink Absolut again, even during mid-summer!
Signed – Outraged!
My Absolut last post on vodka « The Mex Files said
[...] for Juniors… and normally not of interest to anyone else… discontinued because crazy gringos were too irony-challenged to think it was serious, another in the long, bizarre and sordid history of U.S. cultural [...]
Anthony said
Boicot!!!! Boicot!!!! Absolut Vodka!!!!!!!!!
William Smith Reed said
Guaranteed I and my bar will cease ordering their products.
ThoughtfulReader said
Permanent Boycott the rude ABSOLUT
Absolut said the ad was designed for a Mexican
audience and intended to recall “a time which the
population of Mexico might feel was more ideal.”
FUTURE “more ideal” suggestions for ABSOLUT
Germany, 1943, most of Europe
Turkey, b4 WW.I, most of the Middle East
Japan, WW.II, with 1/3 China, and Pearl Harbor
USSR with Iron Curtain countries, b4 Freedom
USA, soon, the last drop of ASOLUT being served.
real american said
Absolut lover….if you obviously support Mexico and their people so badly, then why don’t you go live there! Renounce your citizenship and go south over the border…Let me guess by the way, you’re from the west coast aren’t you. You left over hippies are not helping when all you do is support everyone else besides your countrymen. Don’t complain when this country loses its soverinity to mexicans, islamists and other non-americans, who by the way…hate you…despite smiling pretty when they speak to you!
real american said
And I’ll continue a little more….I have nothing against Mexico or other nationalities, but I want a fourty foot fence on our border with snipers every 20 feet. If you don’t like your country then fix it instead of coming to ours and raping it! I don’t support giving driver’s licenses to illegals or giving them any health insurance or benefits of any kind! I don’t support letting them live here and I don’t care how much it costs our country to get them out…DO IT! If I were to go to Mexico or any other country I wouldn’t get any benefits of any kind, so why are we giving them so much!
P.S. To all you hippies out there who want this non existent world where everyone loves each other and wars won’t exist and everyone can just sit around with a guitar and smoke dope….WAKE UP! If you don’t sternly protect your country, you may find yourself being some illegals Bi*ch some day!
San Diego citizen said
I read an article about this in my local (San Diego Union-Tribune) newspaper and found my way to this site and have been reading many of the responses here. Boycott Absolut if you feel you must, pour it all down the sink. Whatever. I personally don’t see the the reason people are all getting so butt hurt over it. Its an ad. It was an ad in Mexico for that target base, not for American audiences. Our ads surely would have had something sex based, not with history. Like it or not, once upon a time this land was a part of Mexico, and before them the Native Americans.
I do have this to add to the boycotters, will you continue that movement to May 5th? Yes, Cinco De Mayo as its know here in San Diego and other US border towns. Will you be able to urge all those bars, restaurants, etc to NOT serve Absolut? Will you be able to get all those happy hour crowds to now drink Absolut? You could even push it further and say its un-American for ANY US citizen to drink on a Mexican themed occasion (celebrating the Mexican victory vs. the French at Puebla). Boycott if you wish, I humbly ask that you do not half-ass it and let all those drinkers have their Absolut on Cinco de Mayo. If you cannot achieve that end then please, have Real American’s snipers shoot any anyone observed drinking Absolut. Feel free to flame me. There are more important things we all should really we worried about.
LOSTmyJOB said
Please, NO MORE of these comments. Yeah, You are right. You can be happy, I lost my job over this ad. I worked on Absolut ads for almost 5 years. There are other people working for them; we all get the point. NO MORE jokes, PLEASE.
We did goofed. Some you win; some you lose.
Now, I have no job; but, great big bills, I may lose everything, I worked so hard for: my family, my nice big home in the suburbs is for sale, kids in $$$ private schools, everything, even my city apartment with a mistress. Its all going. It was just a fun Mexico ad; we did not even think those people could or would read.
FYI: The “NEVER WITHOUT Absolut” campaign, with the Third Reich, April 20th, birthday party — never ran; none of the TV networks would take those ads.
So, no more humor, please. And, clearly, don’t boycott humor or Absolut.
Right America said
This is a great ad – you freaks that get all spun up about this really need to get a life. These ads have been run my whole adult life and they have humor mixed into nearly all of them. I think there are many more things to get wrapped up than something as simple as this. You people sound like those freaks who want to bomb the Dutch because of a cartoon ad. SAD world, we need and absolut world!
charlie said
bieeen si
Carlos Ley said
Esta muy padre fue una excelente idea mis felicitasiones a los creadores comprenla buy it = )
Melissa said
It is funny how people of other countries believe Americans are overreacting to this ad. However, we all know if it were them, they would be in an uproar as usual and expect us to support their decision.
Everyone knows that Three Olives is a much better vodka!!
The Red Pill said
Real American, you need to can it.
For starters, I am from the west coast and damn proud of it.
Now you look at the articles in my blog and tell me again how I hate America and welcome illegal immigrants.
Careful not to choke on your shoelaces as you put your foot in your mouth.
ABSOLUTLY OFFENSIVE & STUPID - SKITSTOVELS! said
To all those who agree with Absolut’s lame, insulting initial ‘justification’ for their absurd offensive advertising campaign in which they stated: “In no way was this meant to offend or disparage, nor does it advocate an altering of borders, nor does it lend support to any anti-American sentiment, nor does it reflect immigration issues. Instead, it hearkens to a time which the population of Mexico may feel was more ideal” I have this suggestion: With that kind of ridiculous reasoning, let’s run ads showing all of Europe as part of nazi germany with a big swastika over it, as I am sure that is someone’s idea of a time in Europe which was ‘more ideal’ or hey- closer to hom and today, let’s show Europe as the Islamic Republic of Europe, as that is definitely the ‘ideal’ Absolut world of millions of Muslims who are attempting to do just that! I, for one, won’t buy the stuff again nor anything manufactured or marketed by their company. A world without these pea-brained, pandering, capitulating and all-around sickening morons is my Absolut world!
George said
The map is inaccurate even for 1848. Strong individual hillbilly Scots Irish culture collided with Spanish/Mexican culture in Texas in 1835 starting with the Battle of Gonzales.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Gonzales
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Come_and_take_it
The Texas Revolution ended with the capture of Santa Anna at the Battle of San Jacinto in 1836, separating Texas from Mrxico a decade before the United States and Mexico went to war in 1848. North of San Antonio, most Texas towns have names similar to other areas of the South. Can’t speak for California, but in Texas hillbillies with guns won and Mexicans lost.
The illegal immigration dispute basically boils down to preserving the strong individual culture of the founding fathers while a strange combination of leftists and corporations attempt a back door immigration law change by lax enforcement and judicial activism.
Dani said
Buy Kettle One. It is far superior anyway. The only reason people order Absolut is because they think it makes them look like they have money and class (when they don’t).
Tolerance said
It is really astonishing how hatefull are these red necks! Do me a favor, I do really want to help you: buy a American history book or if you don;t have money go to wikipedia and LEARN about your own USA history, for godsake!; don’t let the rest of the world laugh at you for being so IGNORANT! Racismo and ignorance are hand in hand. National II organization are experts in boicoting ; or don’t you remember what you did to your OWN Bank of america! Lazy people of this disgusting organization: go and find a real job!; you are not Immigration Dep. Shame of you, your hate is cutting jobs for your SAME AMERICAN PEOPLE and decreasing your own AMERICAN ECONOMY (recession, sounds familiar to you?) Pathetic thugs, there are more important issues around the world: babies dying in Africa,Monks dying in TIBET!,American and innocents civil Irakies kills in Irak,AMerican students killing other students!!!!,etc… Use your head in something constructive on the planet!!! Are you talking about “offenses”??? YOU are the only group in this blog who are offending, insulting and saying vulgar words!!!! I guess that you did not learn anything consistent at school but filthy vocabulary. My respects to that only 3% of american who have good education and support the vagrants. No more XENOPHOBIA, no more XENOPHOBIA!
PS: Xenophobia means:people who HATE people from other nationalities. (Just in case get histerics once again)
Tolerance said
Melissa Says:
“April 8, 2008 at 1:16 pm
It is funny how people of other countries believe Americans are overreacting to this ad. However, we all know if it were them, they would be in an uproar as usual and expect us to support their decision.”
Overreacting????? What do you mean???? Do me a favoor:Go and study YOUR OWN AMERICAN HISTORY, see on internet and read only “The Hidalgo Treaty”, then you can talk.Remember: racismo and ignorance go hand in hand.No wonder why the US is so unpopular with the rest of the world. I would neveeer rise my kids in that sick society full of XENOPHOBIA. Again my rspects for the 3% american who do really have education, I met some.
Speechless said
Now I do really understand why everytime I invite my European friends to my US house…. they refused strongly telling me: “forget it, they are red necks! Lets meet in…. Aruba, St Martin, Greece but in US not, period.” Now the facts talk by itself.I do really feel sorry for those handful of well- educated Americans I met. Shall I sell my house??? The sad answer is: yes. Poor those latin people who do not have the chance and opportunity to move out from this society full of racismo, ignorance and xenophobia.
Lance said
WoW, do you really think we blame this advertising on Mexico?!
NO!
America is the dream for some, not the oppressors. I guess dreaming about borders being moved does help in getting them in?
Absolut of Sweden was just sold for multi. Billions just a month ago to a out of country bidder, the other bidders were one of most powerful rich families in Sweden AND the swedish government, who put up retirement funds, but…… lost out to a French firm.
This is just in-house business terrorists or corporate sabotage. Swedish politics I guess you could call it , along with the Nazis?
We love our Mexican friends and they just want what we in the Americas have. And that’s why a lot of Mexican/Spanish/others stayed here and even fought and became part of the new Americas.
But dreams of borders being moved, to accommodate your illegal entry? Meh?!
Wake up, that’s a dream and how would we be improved by Mexican control, when your own people are leaving to sneak in to the US and are working illegal sending money home?
Your county is over shadowed by corruption and blame it on the US instead of the reasons why your government has failed you or induces you to want leave there?
Mexicans don’t like immigrants going north from south America because they might settle and/or also it’s a good time to rob them.
You really need to work in your own country to be happy or get changes you wish, and if you can’t even give your own people the basics? They will dream of living free in America.
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Speechless said
First I don’t approve the Mexican illegality, even though Mexican cutt your own taxes doing the dirty job that american DO NOT want to do (Americans say they do not feel comfortable dirtying their hands, I have plenty of evidences).I agree to those illegal immigrants should legalize their situation in USA, Europe,etc but generalizing that all foreigner are criminals or illegals is compleatly grotesque.
What is the scandal with that advertisement? Where in that ad is written or suggest to move the borders to accommodate the illegal entry to USA ????No my dear , you are totally wrong.That ad ONLY SHOWS part of your OWN history of 1846;the Treaty of Hidalgo which agreed to cede those 4 complete and 3 in portions Mexican states to USA.If you go to Wikipendia don’t faint when you see with you own eyes what I am talking about. For the peace of all Wikipendia says literally:”The treaty is still a culturally sensitive issue”.
Don’t get so furious at the wikipendia and do not put fire on it.All these fighting does not make any sense ,it is worthless;lets laugh together or at least putting in the trash all that bad feelings.
Ms:Lance:”But dreams of borders being moved, to accommodate your illegal entry? Meh?!”
Pancho said
Edited for offensive language.
Pancho said
Edited for offensive language.
David DeCarlo said
Hey Absolut lover,
What if Absolut redrew the map of Germany to include say…France? To appeal to Germans.
Or if they redrew the middle east and erased Isreal to appeal to Arabs.
Would that grab ya?
Jhon P said
where are now the KKK mierda organization illegal? Strange, isn’ it?? why suddenly they have disspeared?? They are swindlers , they only want to be known by the naive good American people to RUN THEIR MONEY under the concept of “donations”!!! These red necks are criminals, some has to stop them!.I need to count the thousand people in this shit blog! Absolut: the cowards red necks inbreed were only shit; bring back the great Mexican ad!!! If you touch one Mexican , …remember that you are touching ALL LATIN AMERICA TOGHETER!!!!
LA PUTA QUE TE PARIO said
WHERE ARE THE BASTARDS!!! THEY INFLATED THE POLLS RESULTS, CHEATERS!!! MICHELLE MALKIN IS BEHIND ALL THIS SHIT RACISM AS ALWAYS SHE DOES.NO WONDER WHY MR. SHABAZZ CALLED HER: “POLITICAL PROSTITUTE”,AND GERALDO RIVERASAID TO HER:
“Michelle Malkin is the most vile, hateful commentator I’ve ever met in my life,” he says. “She actually believes that neighbors should start snitching out neighbors, and we should be deporting people.
THIS BASTARDS ARE SPREADING THEIR ANTI-IMMIGRATION HYSTERIA.
MALKIN (REAL LAST NAME: MAGLALANG, MORE IMMIGRANT NAME IS IMPOSIBLE)IS ALSO BORN FROM PHILLINES PARENTS! BASTARD! ASHAME OF YOU AND YOUR INBREED ORGANIZATIONS. LIERSSSS!
Chris said
Where are the rats now? Who is the next victim??? About maps review on you tube:
Miss south carolina teen.
or
Americans are not stupids.
Xenophobics, xenophobics!!!!
Pancho said
Edited for offensive language.
The Red Pill said
This is hilarious.
I am being called out for my hatred by people spewing the most hateful comments in this entire section. The true colors are starting to come through.
Heated debate is encouraged. But I won’t stand for strings of vulgarities and hate-speech. If you want to be taken seriously, please begin by getting a dictionary and using words that are beyond a 6th grade playground. And since this is obviously an English-speaking blog, using English would also help. I shouldn’t have to use a translator to read comments on my own blog.
@ Tolerance: “Use your head in something constructive on the planet!!! Are you talking about “offenses”??? YOU are the only group in this blog who are offending, insulting and saying vulgar words!!!! I guess that you did not learn anything consistent at school but filthy vocabulary.”
Take another look. Pancho seems to have the vocabulary of a 4th grader and Jhon P. doesn’t seem to understand the concept of punctuation.
@ Tolerance and Speechless: As for knowing the history of my own country, I happen to be a History major in college, so I have taken a class or two. How about you both practice what you preach, and read up on the history yourselves. You will see that Mexico was the aggressor by invading United States territory, and by not honoring its previously signed treaties. It underestimated the US, and lost in that gamble. A treaty was signed, land was bought and paid for.
We are being told it is just an ad, and we should get over it. Let’s turn the tables on that.
It’s just a boycott. Get over it, folks. Our leaders will continue to pander to illegal immigration, so your illegal entry into our country will not be prohibitted in any way by any this. We are simply exercising our rights as Americans to speak out against something we feel is not right.
We are also excersizing our rights in a free market economy. We threatened boycott and the offensive ad was removed. Its that same free market that keeps the doors open for illegal immigrants, so you should all love it.
Speechless said
Red pill or the american or whatever: @”As for knowing the history of my own country, I happen to be a History major in college”; is not neccessary to go an university to know our own history but I respect you choice. Excersizing your right to what??? You and your “smart” group are putting down and even on a hole direct to the earth core in this exactly moment when your country is in a recession , what a free market are you talking about????? To my opinion you also hate your own race.Bla, bla, bla. Somebody is looking for a space in a university to study HISTORY to teach kids, any oportunity ???. Poor kids, at least mine are out of that sick culture ans also out of the COMPOUND were 416 of them were taken out from terror of living in a polygamia and getting pregnant at 16!
Very sad, my vacation house in USA for sure I gonna sell it, maybe better invest in something in the Maldivies, why not.Nice, isn’t it?
Miss South Carolina Teen on you tube ,knows how to explain accurately where is the american map. If that is not in you refine taste, I invite you to go to the same you tube: American are not stupids. By the way, do not take it personally I did not draw that map and please, please do not boycott YOU TUBE they won’t give you a penny. It is also pathetic what perspective you have of others: “Everybody who is differnt from me is ILLEGAL”. Racism and ignorance are hand in hand don’t forget that prhase it really helps.
James said
There’s the joke….”Do you remember the black guy in the Jetsons?” The other person thinks about it for a second and says, “No, I don’t”…to which you reply, “Isn’t the future great!”
This joke could NOT be turned into a cartoon as it is simply politically and socially incorrect. The reason it is so offensive is because it advocates a white supremacist world view. The ad could be hung in the whitest neighborhood of Utah and it would still be offensive, regardless of whether the “intended” audience agreed with it or not. In an age where companies encourage globalization, they need to realize that regionalized advertising is never going to work again.
Realist said
I think “Speechless” has had a few Mescals and ate the worm to boot (literally). WTC is this jacktard saying?
Realist said
By the way “Speechless”, when you sell your vacation home in the US – don’t let the door hit you in the ass on your way out. G’bye!!!
stebben said
shut up!!!!!
In An Absolut World « Son of Bill Brasky said
[...] I work in advertising and I think the ad is brilliant. Not so much for the idea and execution but for the completely over-the-top buzz that it has created. I don’t think there is single major news outlet that isn’t following this story. In my opinion there really is no story. It’s an ADVERTISEMENT. Furthermore it’s an advertisement using a map that ACTUALLY EXISTED prior to the Mexican-American War. The idiocy of these critics amazes me. Most of the outrage is coming from right wing crazies (see Michelle Malkin) and their minions (like this idiot). [...]
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Wingless said
Somebody said:
[...] I work in advertising and I think the ad is brilliant. Not so much for the idea and execution but for the completely over-the-top buzz that it has created. I don’t think there is single major news outlet that isn’t following this story. In my opinion there really is no story. It’s an ADVERTISEMENT. [...]
Soooo…. What you are saying is an ad with a picture of Mohammed (hairy chest et. al) flossing his teeth with the bones of the infidel would be brilliant as well? It would create over-the-top buzz, the media outlets would talk about it… Does that make it brilliant?
Don’t mistake controversy with intelligence, anyone can stir up controversy, it doesn’t take much thought…
As for “Speechless”, is my universal translator malfunctioning or are you totally Loco?
…”Speechless”…If only you were…
Anonymous said
I really didn’t care about the ad before, but after reading people get their panties in a bunch about it, and given that normally sane people actually want to build a multi-billion dollar WALL rather than rebuild ground zero, I’m going to go out any buy a case of Absolut. Maybe two.
I live in CA, but I’m really sick of the racism and closed mindedness of the american people.
Anonymous said
I think the red pill is what the red states took when they voted for Bush Jr.
dave said
I think the red pill is what the red states took to get them to vote for Bush Jr.
patricksperry said
Well well Pill ..? You scored a hit with this one. My blog’s biggest one was about H. Clinton’s mouth. It took over a year, but then, it exploded! Looks like that might just happen here for you!
May I stir the proverbial? Just a bit?
My very first girlfriend was Yolanda Sanchez. A red haired green eyed Chicana that was, and is, Drop Dead Gorgeous, to use a phrase from the mid sixties. We stay in touch. Her biggest concerns? The illegals that are taking over. Her family has fought for freedom since before California became a state. We won, and they lived. Now, it seems that (read some of the writings above) it will all be coming back. I am reminded of the signs that are paraded around Denver during Cinco De Mayo, “Culture, not Color.” I like that.
Keep the feudalism and all the rest, in Mexico! Is America perfect? Of course not. Show me a place that is. Then, you, go and live there.
United States of America, all the way!
The Red Pill said
@Patrick
Actually, I have been asked to be a co-blogger at another blog.
http://cadillactight.wordpress.com
There won’t be much action around here.
patricksperry said
Well then I guess I will try and keep up with you over there!
ilegal immigrant... said
There’s a Rush’s song called “witch hunt” that says:
“Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand”
Ignorance? I know they are ignorants, you can ask them: what’s the capital of Nigeria, and they will never know… “they never tough me that at school…”
Prejudice? wow US is the country of the prejudice… the hate and racist roots are big… and they hate people, just for being different!!!
Fear? Well yeah! they fear everybody, the Mexicans, the Muslims, the Jews, and now they are afraid of the Koreans and Afghans too… ain’t that funny???? bunch of chicken shit!
But guess what? US has been the only one country to drop a nuclear bomb in not only one, but two populated cities and kill thousands of INOCENT people, people just like you and me, and nowadays they have almost 10,000 ILEGAL troops in an ILEGAL war in Irak, if they kill an iraki: its the war, and what it takes…
but if an iraki kills an US soldier: its a war crime….
figures!
ilegal immigrant... said
oh, by the way, the add is based in a map of the Mexican Republic, in the year 1830, before the sale of what today is: Wyoming, Colorado, Texas, California, Nevada, Utah, Oregon, Arizona, New Mexico etc. etc… This map was not made for the Absolut Vodka advertising… this map has more than 170 years old.
More information: you can find this map in the 3rd grade text book in every elementary school in Mexico, and they use it, just as information and educational purposes, they are not teaching them kids in school how to take over a country…
Figures!
patricksperry said
Seems The Pill is busy Illegal one. Everything you have posted though is pure Bovine Feces. Other than yes, we did pay fort the territory… After we kicked their butts!
Get educated before you take on adult argumentation …
The Red Pill said
I saw it, I just chose to ignore his ignorance. I can only repeat myself so many times before it gets boring, and he is using the same tired, misguided arguement as all the rest.
But since he likes history so much, I will offer some research topics that may interest him.
The Mexican War
The Treaty of Guadelupe Hidalgo
The Potsdam Declaration
The Red Pill said
He may also want to research the North/South Pacific current, as well as the Yuma Massacre. Together, they kept Mexico from ever actually controlling or developing that land.
I would also recommend researching the Californio population who lived there during that time.
The Bear Flag Rebellion might also be enlightening.
That should keep him busy for a while.
patricksperry said
One can only hope Pill. I do, for some reason have serious doubts that he will even make an attempt. Yolanda’s family (Mentioned above.) has a lot of documentation from that period out at Mission San Luis Rey. There were more than a few very good reasons the Californio’s wanted nothing at all more to do with Spain or Mexico.
Leonardo said
Why would someone boycott such a nice taste, and with such intelligent ads?
That’s only thinking about the past, before USA stole that land.
patricksperry said
Not only illiterate, but uninformed as well Leonardo…